so, heres my thoughts on the finale:

rachel needs to die...or get a heart.

brooke and lucas either need to start fully trusting eachother of break the hell up

jake needs to get his cute ass back on the show

i love that karen is pregnant. but does anyone else think its odd that dan wanst to help out? didnt play dad for his own son, but he will for his nephew....scum

i dont know what to think about the whole keith/dan/deb fire drama....its still rolling in my brain

i almost had heart failure when hailey but the bracelet on nathans arm...i was like NO! but the "dont say i never gave you anything" line was SO cute

WHEN we have a season 4 i think lucas will pull up and jump in and save the day. they cant be that cruel to kill off nathan.

uh....i think thats it!

All of that sounds about right. I'm still wondering who knows about Dan killing Keith... maybe Deb? or Karen? I have no clue, so there needs to be a fourth season!

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Originally posted by jsternfeld:
okay, i had to tivo it, but it stopped recording right before it ended, when haley was screaming for help on the bridge. what else happened?

nothing else happened...well the bracelet Haley put on Nathan came floating up to the top of the water but that was basically it.

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Originally posted by PhillyGrl:

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Originally posted by jsternfeld:
okay, i had to tivo it, but it stopped recording right before it ended, when haley was screaming for help on the bridge. what else happened?

nothing else happened...well the bracelet Haley put on Nathan came floating up to the top of the water but that was basically it.

but we saw that in the beginning.

The beginning was a dream that Nathan was having about Haley drowning. The ending was the bracelet falling off of Nathan when we was in the water.

did anyone else catch when Brooke was talking to Lucas before the wedding, and she was telling him all whats wrong, and she said "im late, late for getting ready..." and i was like uhh oh! lucas didnt even catch that, lol....anyway yea thats my random reason for thinking Brooke's pregnant even though she never seemed to have left her purse there, im sure she wouldve noticed before she packed up all her stuff at Peyton's house.

hmmm

^^ Yeppers I thought the same thing about her "being late".

Uh.. OTH's gotta stay!

yea that's that first thing i thought of when she was talking about being late.

There were a ton of things said to make you think that each person was pregnant. Brooke won't be pregnant b/c they have already had the pregnancy scare between Brooke and Lucas, Mark won't do that again.

hmmm -

if it's not brooke, do you think it might be rachel? bc if i remember correctly, didn't she tell cooper something and he didn't believe her?

then there's the whole thing where haley was telling nathan how he's good in times of crises(sp?) and that she had to tell him something?

i could be WAY off but these were just some of the things i noticed.

the writers are so clever - setting up 3 possible scenarios for us to think about who else is pregnant.

Omg it was so great.It was such a beautiful episode.I loved it.I cried so much during it.I really hope it makes it to the CW network because it can't end.It was so cute about Nathan was freaking about if Hayley was okay before the wedding.I knew the dream he was having at the beginning was going to the limo wreck at the end of the episode.I liked how Nathan went to the basketball court and talked to Lucas.I liked that Lucas said he would check on Hayley.It was cute how he said tell Hayley to stay away from water.I loved that Hayley went to Karen and asked about the wedding dress.That was so sweet.I loved that Karen told her you have a great soul Hayley James Scott.I wish Brooke would forgive Peyton.I hate that she is moving out of living with Peyton.I hate that she slapped Peyton.I think Peyton still liked Lucas but she doesn't want to steal him away and still wants her best friend Brooke.I hated it when Brooke said I gave you a second chance and you blew it.I loved the dress Brooke had on in that scene.I loved the wedding rehearsal.I liked it when Dan was fixing Lucas tie and it showed Karen talking to Deb and Karen telling Deb not to tell Dan that she tried to kill.I was glad Deb finally told him she tried to kill him.I was glad it showed Dan feeling remorse and going to the grave of Keith and crying at it.I liked it when Dan came and talked to Karen and told her I'm sorry for about the way I have treated you and Lucas and I'm going to be here for you this time.I was kinda of glad Karen told him she was pregant.I did think it was weird though that she did hug him.I think the baby is definely Keith's baby.I felt so bad for Rachel.I felt bad for her when she was talking to Cooper.I actually like Rachel now.You could see how hurt she was when Cooper said it was over and we will talk about this later and don't mess up Nathan and Hayley's wedding.It was cool to see Nathan,Dan and Deb riding in the limo to the wedding because you never thought that would be happening.I loved it when Nathan was freaking out and Lucas called her and Nathan talked to her and she came riding in on the carriage.Omg she looked so gorgeous.I loved the wedding.I felt so bad for Peyton when she talked to Lucas and said Brooke said for you not to talk to me so just don't do it.I loved it once Lucas went to see Hayley and said excuse me princess I'm looking for my bf Hayley.Hayley looked so gorgeous when she turned around.I felt bad that her parents didn't come to the wedding.I loved that Lucas said I can give you away.That was too sweet.I loved the wedding.I loved when Deb and Dan walked down and Dan said are u feeling sentimental and Deb said actually sick.I liked it when Peyton walks up and saids to Nathan you could have had me and Brooke saids to Coop you wanna make it a double ceremony.I felt bad when Brooke said to Peyton now I know what this dress looks like on a witch but I liked it when Peyton said go Brooke yourself.I loved their vows my favorite part was when Nathan said always and forever and I was waiting for Haaley to say it and she didn't and nathan had to an again and she did.I loved the wedding reception.I was so glad Gavin Degraws song got picked.I felt so bad for Rachel when she got there and started drinking.You could tell how hurt she was when she seen Peyton and Cooper dancing and having such a great time.Omg Bevin looked so adorable and so cute at the wedding.Anyways Brooke and Lucas dancing together was going good until Lucas said I kissed Peyton in the library.I felt so bad for Brooke.I hated it when they argued over that.I loved there toasts that Lucas and Brooke gave.They were both so sweet.I think once Brooke gave her she realized to still be with Lucas.Coopers toast was funny.I felt so bad for Rachel when she got up there and gave the toast of to sex with Cooper.I think everybody was shocked by that.I was surprised he went running after her.I was surprised when she got in the limo that he got in it too.I was glad that once Rachel stopped the limo they got out and talked and Cooper got her to go back and to get her stuff and to take her home. I liked how Hayley and Nathan walked out and went to get in the car and Nathan said we are going to London for a few days because it always rains there.That was funny.I thought that once going back with Rachel and Cooper in the limo that everything would be okay.I loved in the car Hayley put the bracelet that Nathan have gave her on his wrist and said don't say I didn't never give you anything.Also I loved that Nathan got her a new ring.It was gorgeous.Anyways I felt bad for Peyton when Lucas told her I told Brooke about the kiss and I'm sorry.I felt so bad for Peyton.I was glad Karen told Lucas she was pregant.I felt bad for Rachel when she said to Cooper is there anyway to keep you and he said no and she said I got to tell you this that I'm pregant.He doesn't believe her.Then Hayley tells Nathan you are good in a crisis.Then Nathan calls Lucas tell him to bring Hayleys purse and then all 4 purses are in the back with a pregancy test in one.I hated it when Brooke was finally leaving Peytons room.Peyton was so hurt.I hated it when Nathan and Hayley crashed with Rachel and Cooper but you knew that was coming.I was glad Nathan jumped in to save Cooper.I felt so bad for Hayley since she was watching all of this.I felt so bad for Dan when he came and see Murder wrote on the wall.I think Deb did that.Anyways I left this out but I loved Michelle Featherstone being on there and playing at there wedding.I thought that was great.I think tonight Keith was still in this world well a part of him.I think that Cooper will die even though I don't want him too though.I think Rachel will live but not be pregant because if she was I don't think she would drink that much as she did at the wedding reception.I know Nathan will live because the show would be lost without him.I think it's more between Brooke and Hayley for being pregant.I think it would be great if Hayley,Brooke or Peyton would be pregant but I think's more so Hayley or Brooke.I actually wish it would be Peyton so that maybe if she was pregant it would be Jake's baby and it would make Brooke be friends with her again.I can't believe Brooke said I don't care if we ever speak again to Peyton.I think Hayley might not be pregant because they did the pregancy scare again.I'm going for Brooke but who knows I could be really wrong.I think Karen's baby is Keith unless it's somehow it's Dan's baby but I highly doubt that.One last thing the music on the season finale was brillant.The show was so great.It was such a beautiful episode with so many emotions throught the whole episode.I have already watched it 2 times since it has aired.I'm so excited that OTH won the E online poll.I just hope it makes to the CW network so the cliff hangers all can be answered.

AND THE WINNER IS!!!!!!!!!!.......

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WhenItComes!! for the longest post ever!!

Daaaang gurl you had that stored away didnt ya?? HaHa! I'm just messing with ya. I like how involved you are and how much time you have on your hands...wish I had that!

Rachel never said she was pregnant.

Personally, I think she threatened to press charges for statuatory rape if Cooper wasn't going to see her anymore. She would be the the perfect type to go ahead and do something like that and that's why he was like "no - we need to talk about this later."

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Personally, I think she threatened to press charges for statuatory rape if Cooper wasn't going to see her anymore. She would be the the perfect type to go ahead and do something like that and that's why he was like "no - we need to talk about this later."

Didn't she say in the last episode that the legal age to have sex with an older person is 16?

Not that I remember - I know in a lot of states the 16 age of consent is only if there is a two year age difference. Otherwise, it is 18.

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Originally posted by *reese:
then there's the whole thing where haley was telling nathan how he's good in times of crises(sp?) and that she had to tell him something?

^I was wondering that also...I mean think about it Haley and Nathan have been perfect for awhile...so giving them a baby might put strains on their marraige...and then I also thought about Brooke as a possibility and I figured if there already was a pregnancy scare with Brooke they wouldn't again...but then I thought the Peyton/Lucas/Brooke Triangle was over...

The reason I think it's Rachel is because they already said she was going to stay on for another season if they continue...if the she was pregnant most likely it would end in a miscarriage giving her a plotline to revolve around. To be honest I don't think they would have 2 new babies at one time.

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Originally posted by Sleepyhd9:
The reason I think it's Rachel is because they already said she was going to stay on for another season if they continue...if the she was pregnant most likely it would end in a miscarriage giving her a plotline to revolve around. To be honest I don't think they would have 2 new babies at one time.

Yeah that's what I was figuring too, they probably dont have the funds to have 2 babies on the show and it would be pretty hard to film that. I bet it is Rachel too.

I was wondering if Moira Kelly (Karen) was pregnant in real life. They couldn't write her pregnancy in the first time but this time is perfect.

I finally get to see this episode today. =) YAYAYAY